measures approx. 17 x 18 inches add about 10 more inches for chain  arts and crafts hand hammered copper chandelier tiffany style   looks like something they would create beautiful workmanship on this piece of art work looks like it is signed with numbers 4522 and 4521?? not sure about the last number hard to read the piece is in used condition if shipping is cheaper with fedx  this is a very early piece looks like it has the original wiring the old style cloth around the wires would say the piece is early 1900's