Here is a great starter English package for the curious rider out there. Its a darling Wintec with a 16.5 inch seat, 15 inch flaps, adjustable gullet (Medium installed), and a nice deep seat. It comes fully fitted with irons, leathers, black bridle with D ring snaffle, and a 28 inch neoprene girth. Everything included is used so please reference pictures and ask questions. Great affordable starter saddle. Many more pictures are available on our Facebook page, Brassy Bit Tack. While you're there, give us a like! This saddle is sold AS IS with NO returns, so please ask questions! Please pay within two day and we will ship within two business days! We strive to keep our customers happy and your feedback is very very important to us! Thank you!