Kept these as a spare set. Meant to put different tires on them. Never got to it. They've been sitting in the box for years. Straight and true. I bought them from another mountain biker who said he had them on a bike he bought, but he never used them. They are definitely LIKE NEW. Check my feedback. If you use Saint M800 hubs with a large 10mm front axle, these will serve you well.