Firstly i know nothing about watches so i do not know what standard you would call the 2 watches they both appear to work i presume they are 60s or 70s i assume they are Swiss they must have some quality as both are 21 jewels the Pierpont is automatic and when you move the hands the seconds hand goes around okay which tells me the balance staff must be okay it needs a spring bar as one is missing the dial and glass look okay the Enicar is running for a couple of minutes at a time which indicates it needs a good clean the dial looks like it needs a clean or it is marked there is a couple of marks on the glass please do not ask for me to take the backs off because i do not have the tools and do not want to do any damage i have no idea of value so sold no reserve the pictures form part of the description please note everything i send is insured so do not winge about posting costs you are welcome to collect.