With the

Battle Cruisers


by

Filson Young

(Late Lieutenant R.N.V.R.)



This is the 1921 First Edition

“Although the book covers so short a period of the North Sea warfare the period is vital in that it embraces the discovery of nearly all our naval shortcomings, and the initiation of the means taken to overcome them.”



 

Front cover and spine

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Publisher and place of publication   Dimensions in inches (to the nearest quarter-inch)
London: Cassell and Company   6¼ inches wide x 9½ inches tall
     
Edition   Length
1921 First Edition   [xv] + 296  pages
     
Condition of covers    Internal condition
Original blue cloth blocked in black on the front cover and gilt on the spine. The covers are marked and rubbed, but particularly the rear cover. The front cover is dull with patchy discolouration and variation in colour. The rear cover, however, is scuffed, scratched and stained, almost as if someone was plotting tracks on a chart (please see the image below). The spine has darkened with age though the gilt blocking remains fairly bright. There is a vertical crease running down the spine near the front gutter. The spine ends and corners are bumped and fayed with small splits in the cloth. There are some indentations along the edges of the boards and there is a forward spine lean.   The end-papers are foxed, browned and discoloured and there is a previous owner's name inscribed in ink on the second blank end-paper ("Charles G. A. Nix"). The paper has tanned noticeably with age and there is widespread, and occasionally heavy, foxing; in particular, there is toning and heavy foxing to those pages adjacent to the photographic plates. Also, some pages are stained or have grubby marks and a few have "scorch" marks from where old newspaper clippings (since removed) were placed. The plate to face page 38 has become detached at some stage and has been taped back in by a previous owner, standing slightly proud and, as such, the edges are chipped and creased. The folding charts are creased around the edges and the larger of the two has a long tear extending from the stub about three inches into the margin of the chart. There is some separation between the inner gatherings. The edge of the text block is grubby, dust-stained and heavily foxed with the foxing extending into the margins.
     
Dust-jacket present?   Other comments
No   This 1921 First Edition is collated and complete but has been well-used overall, in dull covers with prominent staining on the rear cover, and widespread, and occasionally heavy, foxing.
     
Illustrations, maps, etc   Contents
Please see below for details   Please see below for details
     
Post & shipping information   Payment options
The packed weight is approximately 1100 grams.


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With the Battle Cruisers

Contents

 

1. The Years Before
2. The Battle Cruisers
3. Breaking into the Navy
4. Invergordon and the North Sea
5. Sea Doings
6. The Raid on Hartlepool and Scarborough
7. The Firth of Forth
8. Christmas at Sea
9. A New Year
10. Days with the Fleet
11. Battle of the Dogger Bank : Prelude
12. Battle of the Dogger Bank: The Chase
13. Battle of the Dogger Bank: The Return
14. Aftermath
15. The First Spring
16. Foundations of the Future
Appendix A.—The Dogger Bank Despatch
Appendix B.—Forces engaged in the Battle of the Dogger Bank
Appendix C—Personnel of the Battle Cruisers engaged on January 24th, 1915
Appendix D.—Correspondence with the Admiralty, 1920
Index

 

 

List of Illustrations


"Rolling Home" (from a Sketch in Oils by the Author)
One of Lord Fisher's Postscripts
Admiral Beatty on the Bridge (1913)
Facsimile Letter from Lord Fisher (1)
Facsimile Letter from Lord Fisher (2)
A Useful Afterthought
H.M.S. New Zealand in Harbour
The Intelligence Office, and the Secretary
Third Cruiser Squadron
H.M.S. Tiger at Sea
H.M.S. Iron Duke at Scapa
Submarine Look-out
The Admiral's Back
Rear-Admiral H. B. Pelly
Rear-Admiral Sir Lionel Halsey, G.G.V.O., K.G.M.G., G.B.
Daybreak—December 16, 1914
Rear-Admiral Von Hipper
Derfflinger
Von der Tann
Blucher
H.M.S. Princess Royal
H.M.S. Queen Mary
H.M.S. Tiger
The Anchorage
The Second Battle Cruiser Squadron
Physical Drill at Sea
Turning Together
H.M.S. Invincible
H.M.S. Indomitable
H.M.S. Inflexible
Rear-Admiral F. W. Kennedy
"5 Blue" (H.M.S. Queen Mary)
Compass Platform, Signal Bridge, and Searchlight Platform of Lion
Working Cables
Rear-Admiral Sir Alfred E. M. Chatfield, K.G.M.G., G.B., C.V.O.
Admiral Von Hipper's Flagship, the Seydlitz
Armour Plate on Lion's Port Side, driven in by Shell Fire
Vice-Admiral Sir O. de B. Brock, K.G.B., K.G.M.G., K.C.V.O.
Admiral Beatty's Dining Cabin after the Dogger Bank Battle
After the Battle
The Sinking of the Blucher
Sunset—H.M.S. Queen Mary
Safe in Port: H.M.S. Lion with Repair Ship Assistance
13-5 Guns
Where an Unexploded Shell passed through Lion's Upper Deck, Starboard Side
H.M.S. Lion at Sea
H.M.S. Princess Royal
H.M.S. Lion
H.M.A.S. Australia
H.M.S. New Zealand.
H.M.S. Indefatigable
The late Captain Cecil Prowse
Tiger Raising Steam
H.M.A.S. Australia
Admiral of the Fleet Earl Beatty, O.M., G.C.B., G.G.V.O., D.S.O., D.C.L.

Charts


The Scarborough Raid
The Dogger Bank Battle
The Lion's Lair





With the Battle Cruisers

Preface

 

This book is not a chapter of naval history. It is, however, a study of naval life in war from which the material for a chapter in naval history may some day be derived. The Navy and its life must remain to a great extent term incognita to the public that owes so much to it; and it is as much due to the public as to the Navy that an explorer like myself should give some account of his adventures.

Although the book covers so short a period of the North Sea warfare the period is vital in that it embraces the discovery of nearly all our naval shortcomings, and the initiation of the means taken to overcome them. The point of view—that of the spearhead of the British Naval forces—necessarily includes a wide angle of outlook, in which the detail of things must diminish in proportion as they recede from the view-point. But just as one full and intimate picture of the life of one ship for one month would give the reader a more human insight into the Navy than a general survey of the whole Fleet for four years, so the narrative of an eye-witness whose place was for six months on the very point of that bright spearhead should have a value apart from, and supplementary to, the official and technical histories which are being compiled. My aim in this narrative has been to draw as few conclusions myself, and to present as much material from which others may draw them, as is humanly possible.

As the Admiralty in its wisdom has refused1 me access to documents by which I might verify my facts, the sources from which that material is drawn are limited to (1) my own observation and memory, which are trained for such a purpose; (2) the few notes and records of fact, valueless to an enemy but important to us, that I have been able to preserve; and (3) the published works of officers high in English and German commands. No one but myself is responsible either for my facts or my deductions; but having waited for five years after leaving the Navy and for two years after the end of the war before putting pen to paper, I shall not, I hope, be accused of rushing into print with a hasty or ill-considered record of my impressions.

My book is written primarily for the public and not for the Naval Officer; but I know him well enough to be sure that he, who will best understand the difficulties encountered in writing this book, will most generously forgive its defects. In my brief temporary membership of the "band of brothers" I came to hold the brotherhood as permanent.

Filson Young.

London, March, 1921.





With the Battle Cruisers

Excerpt:

 

6. The Raid on Hartlepool and Scarborough

In the small hours of Tuesday, December 15, I was aroused by the sound of our torpedo nets coming in; and when, at 4 A.M., I went on duty, I found that we had suddenly been ordered to sea and were to sail at five. A German force was reported to be leaving the Ems this morning, and our orders from the Commander-in-Chief were to rendezvous with the Second Battle Squadron and the First Light Cruiser Squadron from Scapa and the Third Cruiser Squadron from Rosyth, in latitude 57.20 N., longitude 0.10 W., at 2.30 p.m. on December 15. There had been a succession of heavy gales, and the destroyers at Scapa could not accompany the Second Battle Squadron owing to the tremendous seas fanning in the Pentland Firth. Boadicea and Blanche, the light cruisers attached to the squadron, were so damaged by the heavy seas encountered in the Firth (Boadicea losing several men overboard) that they had to return to their base for repair. To take their place afl the available destroyers from Cromarty were ordered out, also two flotillas from Harwich; but this latter force, owing to complications due to its being directly under the command of the Admiralty, never got far enough to the northward to take any part in the subsequent operations. Only seven destroyers were available at Cromarty: Luax, Ambuscade, Unity, Hardy, Slunk, Acasta and Spitfire; and the shortage oil destroyers was to prove a very important factor in the occurrences of the following day.

As things were very quiet in the Intelligence office I went up on deck as we passed in the dark through the boom defence at Cromarty, and stayed there until we had passed out beyond the Souters, when we encountered a very heavy sea which caused even the Lion (usually but little affected by heavy weather) to roll and screw in a somewhat disquieting manner. Daylight found us out of sight of land on a south-easterly course and in weather which promised to add considerably to whatever excitements might be in store for the small craft accompanying us. At noon we received the following signal from the late Vice-Admiral Sir George Warrender, who was commanding the Second Battle Squadron and was therefore the senior officer at sea; his squadron consisted of the battleships King George V. (Flag), Orion (Rear-Admiral Sir Robert Arbuthnot), Ajax, Centurion, Conqueror and Monarch.

"V.A. Second Battle Squadron to V.A. Lion:

" German squadron of four battle cruisers, five light cruisers and three flotillas leave Jade River daylight to-day, returns Wednesday night. Am proceeding to rendezvous 54.10 N., 3.0 E., 7.30 a.m. 16th. Hope to get news from Commodore (T) and join him. If nothing heard at 7.30 shall steer 90° till 10.30 and 270° till 1.30, speed 14 knots, then turn north. Considering your strength do not get more than five miles from me. Steering 90° I want you astern, otherwise ahead, with 3rd C.S. and 1st L.C.S. under your command. I think raid probably Harwich or Humber. If you get engaged draw enemy towards Battle Squadron. If Commodore (T) does not join up I fear enemy's destroyers only. On joining 3rd C.S. to take station one mile from our port beam. 1st L.C.S. one mile on starboard beam opening to five miles to-night, closing daylight. They are then under your command to engage enemy's light cruisers and head off destroyers as you may direct. Battle Stations by 7 a.m. and steam for full speed at midnight. Warn cruisers to beware of mines floating or dropping astern. Have you any suggestions? As soon as you understand take station live miles ahead. If this weather continues if possible engage enemy to windward and steer to binder destroyers. 11.41."

This signal did not add greatly to the Admiral's knowledge of the situation he was likely to encounter next morning. Fortunately—or unfortunately—he did not know then that the Harwich destroyers, although at sea, would be 60 miles to the south of us at the critical time, and that for scouting purposes we should be dependent, in what promised to be very heavy weather, on lour light cruisers and seven destroyers. However, the junction with the Rosyth and Scapa forces was duly made that afternoon; and we proceeded in the formation directed, with slight modification as to the positions in which the scouting craft were spread. The order taken for the night was that the battle cruisers took station live miles ahead of the Battle Squadron, with the First Light Cruiser Squadron disposed five miles to starboard and the Third Cruiser Squadron five miles to port, the destroyers being astern of the Battle Squadron.





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The end-papers are foxed, browned and discoloured and there is a previous owner's name inscribed in ink on the second blank end-paper ("Charles G. A. Nix").





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