These are all seriously so clean the apex one is never even been worn I don't think any of them been worn actually none of the bills are in sweatbands have any sort of dirt on them which is really good because nobody wants to wear a dirty hat especially a dirty bill or brim you know So yeah I'm going to start these out in a lot of course the apex one's the coolest The little wet stain is from my little washcloth so that'll disappear once it dries on the AJD one I was trying to get off some of the surface dirt on these they probably even sit in forever