They bid on five autographed, signed letters of the classical archaeologist Ferdinand Noack (1865-1931).


Dated Berlin 1921/22.


Three letters with the original envelope.


A letter with full name signed "Ferdinand Noack"; another jokingly referred to as “your professor friend”; the others with the abbreviation “FN”


Addressed to Ruth Forssner, b. Minor (1886-1969) in Stockholm, daughter of the Swedish banker Victor Moll (1858-1929), president of the Swedish Reichsbank from 1912, and widow of the Swedish doctor Gunnar Hjalmar Forssner (1876-1915). In 1922, she married the Swedish lawyer and judicial councilor Axel Edelstam (1873-1943). The last letter from the 14th November 1922 is already addressed to "Ruth Edelstam." Their son was the zoologist Carl Edelstam (1924-2016).


1.) 1-page letter (14.3 x 21.3 cm), Berlin, 17. March 1921. With envelope (12.3 x 15 cm).

Transcription: "No time at all, the Olympic Gypsies are waiting for me, Karo is here and wants to talk to me about Athens, and a thousand other things. But so much more greetings from Allen us! Kind regards, your old travel-loving FN"


2.) 2-page letter (12.8 x 20.8 cm), Berlin 18. September 1921. Without envelope.

Excerpts: "Dear little molly! [...] But at night you shouldn't write at all, you should sleep! My family will always be happy to receive something from you, both letters and butter, etc. a good pensioner. In general, my wife would prefer not to have to deal with a stranger, even a lovely Swedish person; It would be good for her to live quietly alone with her two sons. There wouldn't be much prospect, because, as she wrote to you, only a well-paying pensioner would be worth the effort. Because she would like to earn something to supplement the professor's income, which is still far too meager. Unfortunately, everyday life takes up so much - but I don't want to complain. We are all together and alive and my being away for more than 5 months will also make the local budget a little cheaper; because unfortunately it always tastes way too good for me! So at the end of April we're going to Athens [...]. With heartfelt greetings, your old and faithful Ferdinand Noack."


3.) 1-page letter (27.8 x 21.6 cm), Berlin, 1. August 1922. With envelope (9.3 x 12 cm).

Excerpts: "So to Prof. D. Scheel, currently in Sigtuna, Stiftelsen (Maelarsee) send everything you want to get rid of! He takes it with him. And then this delicate mission of trust for the good aunt will probably end. [...] In d. Provence where you will be (especially) intoxicated, think of us - we were there too. - In 1/2 hour we travel (Hopferau-Weizern-Hopferau Castle near Füssen, Allgäu - until 25. August. Else goes via Tübingen, I go straight home. Warmest regards, your loyal FN"


4.) 3-page letter (26 x 17 cm), Berlin, 14. November 1922. With envelope (12.5 x 15.5 cm).

Excerpts: "Dear little molly! What great joy, this dear, exquisite picture - I, as the happy and grateful addressee, and all of us - Ulrich is sitting far away in G. - were incredibly happy. [...] How nice for the l. Daughters, that it is now like this - and so beautiful! We enjoyed your happy cards from every wonderful south that we also like to think of, and your report from the new home in St. [[=Stockholm]]. [...] Because there is always something going on at Noacks. [...] Else looks after and chases through the city, also to prepare for Moritz, who ultimately wants to get married one day, the two very nice pensioners also bring their lives and their daily experiences with them [...], and I I sit at the last window in my room and draw and write endless things! [...] The tormenting thing about everything is that you are constantly forced to think about the cursed money; Even in the peace of Eleusis the dirty paper rustles. [...] I put everything in your hand - and conclude that the young Gram, the Norwegian, takes the letter with him before he goes to his dance lesson ('Shimmi'?). So at the end, thank you very much again and the very best regards - including for your husband - from your professor friend."


5.) 2-page letter (11.3 x 17.3 cm), without location, 25. February (no year specified). Without envelope.

Excerpts: "Dear little molly! Just the letter from February 22nd. with T. Marie's ingredients. In fact, there is only weakness left with Ulrich and hopefully this will improve soon in the new Witting-Parttenkirchen guesthouse. But don't send any more butter up there [...], in an emergency I could send it from here. In my daily museum work, I am very grateful for this valuable reinforcement. I have to do it every day until 2 o'clock for the next few weeks. stand around there longer and plan. You have to be there for every piece. [...] Warmest regards as always, your FN"


Condition: Paper slightly browned, envelopes slightly damaged. Please also note the pictures!


Internal note: Corner 23-10 Autograph Autograph Science


About Ferdinand Noack and his son Ulrich Noack (source: wikipedia):

Ludwig Conrad Georg August Theodor Ferdinand Noack (*31. December 1865 in Holzhausen; † 21. September 1931 in Berlin) was a German classical archaeologist.

Life and work: Ferdinand Noack attended high school in Darmstadt and, after graduating (Easter 1885), went to the University of Geneva, where he deepened his knowledge of French. In the winter semester of 1885/86 he moved to the University of Berlin, where he studied classical philology, classical archeology and history with Ernst Curtius, Hermann Diels and Carl Robert. Noack spent the winter semester of 1887/88 at the University of Göttingen as a guest student with Hermann Sauppe and Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff. In the summer semester of 1888, Noack moved to a university in his hometown of Hesse to complete his studies: the University of Giessen. He passed his teaching qualification there in the fall of 1889 and then returned to Göttingen to deepen his studies. There he wrote his dissertation on the representation of the Troy legend by Euripides and Polygnotos, with which he received his doctorate in 1890 at the University of Giessen (with Adolf Philippi). phil. received a doctorate.

Through his studies, Noack was recognized as both a philologist and an archaeologist. This combination of ancient science disciplines corresponded to the ideal of his academic teachers. For the year 1891/92, Noack received a travel scholarship from the German Archaeological Institute, which enabled him to spend a longer period of time in Italy and Greece. He continued his studies in Greece even after the scholarship expired and in 1893 examined Mycenaean settlements in the Kopaïs Basin.

After his return from Greece, Noack worked as an assistant teacher in Darmstadt from 1894. His goal was an academic career: he continued his archaeological studies, including at the Grand Ducal Museum in Darmstadt. In 1897 he completed his habilitation in classical art archeology at the Technical University of Darmstadt. In 1898 he was appointed head of the excavations in Alexandria, which Ernst von Sieglin financed. However, Noack left the expedition after just one year when he was appointed associate professor and head of the Archaeological Museum at the University of Jena in 1899. From 1900 onwards, Noack systematically expanded the original collection there through new acquisitions. From Jena he went to the University of Kiel in 1904 as a full professor of classical archeology and at the same time became director of the antiquities collection. In 1908 he moved to the chair at the University of Tübingen. Both in Kiel and Tübingen he campaigned for the expansion of collections and the reform of archaeological studies.

In 1916, Noack's career reached its peak when he was appointed full professor of archeology at the Friedrich Wilhelm University in Berlin. There he also became a member of the central directorate of the German Archaeological Institute in 1918. In this capacity he led the reopening of the Athens department in 1921. In the same year he was elected first chairman of the Archaeological Society in Berlin.

Through his marriage to Else Hartleben, he became the brother-in-law of the poet Otto Erich Hartleben (1864–1905) and the archaeologist and educator Ludwig Pallat. Their marriage produced two children, including the historian Ulrich Noack.

In his research work, Noack combined archaeological and philological methods early on. Through his travels to Italy and Greece, his research focus shifted to architectural history, particularly Greek (including Mycenaean). In the last years of his life he increasingly devoted himself to Roman architectural research (Pompeii).

Fonts

Iliupersis. De Euripidis et Polygnoti quae ad Troiae excidium spectant fabulis. Giessen 1890 (dissertation).

The Greek Dictys. In: Philologus. Supplement volume 6 (1893), pp. 400–500.

The birth of Christ in the visual arts up to the Renaissance following E.beinwerke from the Grand Ducal Museum in Darmstadt. Darmstadt 1894.

Homeric palaces. A study of the monuments and the epic. Leipzig 1903.

Oval house and palace in Crete. A contribution to the early history of the house. Leipzig 1908.

The architecture of antiquity. Berlin 1910.

Σκηνὴ τραγική. A study about the scenic systems on the orchestra of Aeschylus and the other tragedians. Tübingen 1915.

Eleusis. The architectural development of the sanctuary. Berlin 1927.

Germanness in Rome since the end of the Middle Ages. Two volumes. Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt, Stuttgart/Berlin/Leipzig 1927 (digital copies).

Architectural historical studies on the outskirts of Pompeii. Berlin 1936.


Ulrich Noack (*2. June 1899 in Darmstadt; † 14. November 1974 in Würzburg) was a German historian and university professor of medieval and modern history.

Life: Noack was the son of the archaeologist Ferdinand Noack. He studied history and philosophy at the Friedrich Wilhelm University in Berlin, where he heard Friedrich Meinecke and Ernst Troeltsch. He further studied at the Georg August University of Göttingen and the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich. Study visits took him to Rome and Cambridge. In 1925, Meinecke received his doctorate on Bismarck's peace policy and the problem of the decline of German power, and in 1929 he completed his habilitation on politics as securing freedom on the Catholic historical thinker John Dalberg-Acton (1929) at the Goethe University in Frankfurt. Noack belonged to the Confessing Church and was banned from publishing from 1933. Since 1927 he was married to a Norwegian woman and focused on Nordic history. In 1937/38 Noack held a professorship at the University of Halle and shortly afterwards became a lecturer in Nordic history, in December 1942 apl. Professor at the Ernst Moritz Arndt University of Greifswald. At the beginning of December 1939, Noack met the then State Councilor Vidkun Quisling at a book exhibition in Oslo. Both gentlemen later discussed the political and military-strategic situation in detail. Quisling called for Germany's military attack on the Soviet Union. Noack summarized Quisling's statements on August 8th. December 1939 in a detailed file note in order to enforce it in Berlin. But this was without result. After the assassination attempt on the 20th In July 1944, Noack was imprisoned for six weeks.

In 1946, Noack received a full professorship in medieval and modern history at the Julius Maximilian University of Würzburg, where he became head of the modern department of the seminar for ancient and modern history in the Faculty of Philosophy. As early as 1946 he joined the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in Greifswald, switched to the CSU in Würzburg and in 1948 founded the Nauheimer Kreis with August Haußleiter, which advocated a neutral and unarmed Germany and the Western integration and rearmament later decided under Konrad Adenauer rejected. As dean of the Faculty of Philosophy, he was a member of the Academic Senate of the University of Würzburg in 1948. In 1952 he founded the magazine World Without War. In 1951 he was expelled from the CSU, then joined the All-German People's Party and was finally a member of the FDP from 1956 to 1960.

His second wife from 1952 was Marianne Noack née Buschette, his former secretary.

In his scientific work, Noack tried to break down world history into 70 or 70 years. 210 years that remained without acceptance.

Given the Soviet and American interests in Central Europe, Noack seemed to imagine a united Germany only as neutralized and demilitarized under international guarantees from both blocs. Germany should act as a barrier between the blocs to create peace and support the global economy with its population size, economic power and infrastructure. After 1949, Noack considered the USA to be more of a threat to peace than the USSR.

Letters 1951 to 1972: According to Ulfried Schaefer, Ulrich Noack's letters and those of his wife Marianne to Walter Schloß, the founder of the Berlin Heidegger Circle, show Ulrich Noack not only as a fighter against Konrad Adenauer with the idea of ​​neutralizing and demilitarizing Germany for reunification and finally for Willy Brandt, but also as a fighter for a world without war. The letters reveal the contacts that the Noacks were looking for to attract like-minded people and also for financial support. They document the degree of approval and rejection, success and failure, and their positive and negative attitudes towards parties and people.

Publications (selection)

Bismarck's peace policy and the problem of the decline of German power, Quelle & Meyer, Leipzig 1928.

Politics as Securing Freedom, Habil.-Schrift, Frankfurt a. M. 1929, Schulte-Bulmke, Frankfurt a. M. 1947, 2. ed. 1960.

History and truth. Based on the writings of John Dahlberg-Acton, the historian of freedom 1834 - 1902, Schulte-Bulmke, Frankfurt a. M. 1935.

Catholicity and freedom of spirit. Based on the writings of John Dalberg-Acton 1834 - 1902, Schulte-Bulmke, Frankfurt a. M. 1936.

The political ethos in European diplomacy, Hoffmann and Campe, Hamburg 1939.

History of the Nordic Peoples, Oldenbourg, Munich/Berlin 1941.

Germany's new figure in a searching world, Schulte-Bulmke, Frankfurt a. M. 1946.

The Nauheim Protocols. Discussions about the neutralization of Germany. The first three conferences of the Nauheimer Kreis August, September, December 1948, self-published, Würzburg 1950.

Norway between peace mediation and foreign rule. Publisher Auf-Bau der Mitte, Krefeld 1952.

Mind and space in history. Classification of German history in the structure of world history. Musterschmidt, Göttingen/Berlin/Frankfurt/Zurich 1961.

The happier possibility as a recognizable dimension of historical judgment formation. Commentaries on world history. World without War publishing house, Würzburg 1978.

Life: Noack was the son of the archaeologist Ferdinand Noack. He studied history and philosophy at the Friedrich Wilhelm University in Berlin, where he heard Friedrich Meinecke and Ernst Troeltsch. He further studied at the Georg August University of Göttingen and the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich. Study visits took him to Rome and Cambridge. In 1925, Meinecke received his doctorate on Bismarck's peace policy and the problem of the decline of German power, and in 1929 he completed his habilitation on politics as securing freedom on the Catholic historical thinker John Dalberg-Acton (1929) at the Goethe University in Frankfurt. Noack belonged to the Confessing Church and was banned from publishing from 1933. Since 1927 he was married to a Norwegian woman and focused on Nordic histo