SE Racing Old School BMX  Round Top Tube JU6 with Innovations Forks - Very Rare - Tribute?.

Please be aware. I orginally thought that this frame was a genuine real deal super rare and desirable SE Racing JU6. The information noted below that I typed up a while back is from when I thought this was a genuine JU6. I listed it on BMXMuseum and a handful of people noted that it could be a tribute JU6. I bought this from a very reputable BMX collector that had several amazing Old School BMX bikes that were definitely genuine Old School BMX bikes. However, with the JU6 bikes being so extremely rare and the fact that some long time BMX collectors on the Museum commented that it might be a reproduction I cannot in good faith list it as a real JU6. So I am listing it here as a tribute JU6. Please keep that in mind when you are reading the description of the bike that I have pasted below that I previously wrote about this frame and fork. Note that the fork is defintely not a reproduction at it is a very desirable fork and it is one of two or three different brands of forks that would have come with a JU6.

One curious thing is that when I got the frame and fork the frame had PK Ripper decals on it but it is definitely is not a rare round top tube early PK Ripper because of the lack of the gusset at the head tube to the down tube. So why would someone make a JU6 frame and then put PK Ripper decals on it?

Even if this frame is a reproduction it was done extremely well and it was probably made from a very early PK Ripper. This is a great frame to build a JU6 tribute bike with. Considering how very rare the JU6 frames are and that the few that were raced some of them were broken because of the lack of a gusset at the head tube to down tube (that is why they added the gusset from the get go when they started making the PK Rippers) this I believe is still a very desirable frame and fork set. I don't believe you could buy an early PK Ripper and modify it or have a frame made from scratch and buy the Old School fork for the starting price listed in this auction. This is a great opportunity to build a really unique and solid tribute JU6. A very nice reproduction set of JU6 decals are included.


Please - Please - Please do not bid if you do not intend or cannot afford to pay. This has actually cost me thousands of dollars in the past and it is very unfair. Thank you for your understanding.

Note: I believe there is a slight chance that this is a real JU6. From my reserach there were defintely two at one point in the Denver area but also rumors of someone in Chicago making reproduction JU6 frames a long time ago and someone in Denver had ended up with one. Remember I am selling it as a tribute JU6 frame. If you purchase this frame and fork there are no returns.

Post from the Museum:

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For sale is a really nice, rare and desirable SE Racing JU6 frame with SE innovations forks. From what I could find online it seems like there were anywhere from 10 - 100 of these frames made. If you are reading this ad you probably know the details about these highly sought after frames as the majority of the information I found was older threads from the Museum. These frames were made in 1978 and pre-dated the PK Ripper. The forks at that time would have been made for SE I believe by either Tange or Cycle Pro. This was before SE was making their own forks and before the forks were stamped "SE".

I do not see any repairs or cracks and all of the welds look great. There is a small dent on the side of the bottom oval tube as shown in one of the pictures. There are some other smaller little dents but the one in the picture is by far and away the most significant. It is maybe a quarter inch long. Any other dents are much smaller and you would have to look for them to notice them. (This is an aluminum frame so sometimes they will get a dent.) There is also a very small pinhole in the top side of the small round tube just behind the back right side of the matchbox. It is small enough that it does not show up in the pictures.

I do not believe the paint on the frame to be original but at the same time there are no signs of any older paint below and there is no paint inside the bottom bracket or the head tube. Those are still raw aluminum. There are some little marks here and there on the paint but it just seems to me that it is in too good of condition to be original and I am not sure if the color is an original SE color or not. It is not the really light blue color that you see often on SE bikes. It is a little darker. My guess is that someone stripped all of the original paint at some point and repainted the frame. The dropouts are very clean with only light marks. The seat tube mast looks great. The forks look to be in good condition but the brown paint is really thick for some reason and at the fork dropouts and ends of the fork tubes you can see a little bit of dark blue paint underneath.

The headset is in good condition but I don't know if it is original to the frame or not and I don't know what brand it is. If I remember correctly it does look similar to a headset I saw in one of the pictures of a JU6 that I found online. The bearing cups are also in good condition with a little bit of discoloration on each one in a small area. I think they can be removed quite easily from the frame as they do not look like they are corroded onto the bottom bracket shell or anything like that. I just thought I would leave them in place as they were there when I bought the frame and fork. A nice quality set of reproduction JU6 decals are included. It is a complete set of decals.

I purchased this JU6 a while back along with some other bikes from a high end collector who has been collecting a wide variety of really nice BMX bikes for a long time. He has a large BMX collection with several of the bikes being pretty rare and collectible.


Previously on Ebay I saw a seller asking $4,700 for a first year (1979) PK Ripper that is not one of the 600 roundtop tube PK Rippers. It has the standard oval top tube. The frame and fork are super nice but they are not nearly as rare as a JU6.