These are Santini Bib Terra Nova Bib Shorts, they are new without tags, I cut off the inside tags because they would have rubbed my skin. Well long story short, I am a big guy 265LBS, and these are the biggest Santini makes, and unfortunately these are too small for me. I love this product but its just doesn't fit. I paid $230 for these, so my loss is your gain. Castinelli 3xl bibs fit, although still a little tight.

There are no rips, holes, stains, or defects on these. They have been washed as I used them one time, hopping they would stretch out, not to be.