These are brand new and I have plenty in stock and I will beat anyones advertised price. Most companies sell just the hinge for $3.00 so you are getting a deal as you also get the plates. So you get one plate and one hinge for your bid. The distance between the holes on the cup are 45mm from the center of one hole to the other center of the hole.These are commonly used where you want to achieve an overlay of 1-3/8" or more.  Overlay is the amount the door covers the faceframe on the hinge side. Great to replace the Grass 830 / 831 series hinges also. Any questions please email me. Please check with me on shipping if you are not within the 48 continental states or for large quanities.