They've finally arrived, the first of the Spiral/twisted 4 sided/star 3" felting needles..Extra strong with the added side so your spiral needles won't bend so easy when they have this Star shape. They cost more, but should last you much longer than the 3 sided twisted needle. Those are excellent too, but always nice to have the choice. Great for moving wool quickly, 2 barbs per side and will fit any tool that a 3 inch needle fits. I have a Facebook page under Bethany Arts, you can contact me there or through ebay. Happy to answer any questions. Terry