Ok first off the smaller bag is branded as an Eddie Bauer. It is obviously a Holland Brothers/ Mulholland Brothers product but there was a time when for whatever reason there was no marking or label to indicate that. It measures about 11” wide by 14” tall by 5” deep for the main compartment. Both bags use the same heavy stiff tough canvas that the earlier Holland Brothers stuff used. The larger bag measures about 24” wide by 14” tall by 8” deep. These are the only two versions of either bag I have seen. They are both in very good to excellent used condition. Won’t split up. I would call the canvas an olive green color. The leather is brown. Just don’t use them enough to justify keeping them. Please see the pictures to confirm condition and color. Thanks.