THESE RODS HAVE NOT BEEN USED FOOR A WHILE DUE TO ILLNESS..THERE ARE A FEW OTHER BRANDS AND TWO UNKNOWN AND I DON,T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THEM MYSELF? SELLING FOR FRIEND WHO PASSED AWAY AS HIS WIFE DON,T DO COMPUTORS. BEST COLLECTION ONLY. PLEASE CHECK OUT MY OTHER GENUINE ITEMS.