"FAN MAIL"
Fantasic buy on a vintage 1947-48 painting!
Belived to be a Vintage ELVGREN demonstration or Elvgren assisted instruction painting for/with
Carlyle,
Student of Gil Elvgren, also painting for Brown and Bigelow at the same time. This vintage painting was found at the same time with treasure trove of rare Elvgren art in the 1990's by me. Including Elvgren's original Fan Mail or Getting Posted.
RARE CIRCA 1947-49 PAINTING
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VINTAGE 1947 ATTRIBUTED ELVGREN DEMONSTRATION PAINTING OF
"GETTING POSTED" also called "FAN MAIL" (c)
Attributed to GIL ELVGREN By leading Elvgren expert, Daniel Vancas (29 years of Elvgren art experience.) This was likely used as a demonstration or instructional aid with artist Carlyle.
Carlyle was aspiring and confirmed 1940's B&B calendar artist at the time, learning and following the works of Elvgren. Such is the use of "Fan Mail" image.
This offering:
Vintage original painting as seen in photos #1, 3 and 4 only
A vintage demonstration painting by CARLYLE with ELVGREN circa 1947-48 OIL ON CANVAS 24X30
"FAN MAIL" IS CALLED BY ELVGREN EXPERTS AS ONE OF ELVGREN'S IMPORTANT PINUPS OF THE LATE 1940'S
PERSONAL INSPECTION ONLY ON CONFIRMED REQUEST. YOU MUST BE PRE-QUALIFIED AND ID CONFIRMED.
- OFFERED ORIGINAL VINTAGE DEMONSTRATION PAINTING BY CARLYLE and GIL ELVGREN
- FIRST TIME OFFERED FOR SALE SINCE 1998
- ORIGINAL 1947 VINTAGE PIN-UP OIL PAINTING RECREATED BY ELVGREN AND CARLYLE
AT THE SAME TIME ELVGREN PAINTED TWO OTHER ORIGINAL "FAN MAIL" PAINTINGS.
ONE OF ELVGREN'S ORIGINALS WHICH I OWNED AND HAD THIS SUBJECT ELVGREN/CARLYLE PAINTING BOTH HANGING SIDE BY SIDE FOR VIEWER COMPARISON AT THE SAME TIME IN 1997-2000 IN
VANGUARD GALLERY CARMEL, CA.
IN ADDITION I HAVE AND STILL, HAVE THE SAME VINTAGE ALL ORIGINAL CARLYLE PINUP "PINUP ON GREEN COUCH" THAT WAS COLLECTED WITH A GROUP OF ELVGREN PAINTINGS ALL FROM THE 1946-47 YEARS THAT WERE LOST BUT I FOUND IN PRIVATE COLLECTION AND STORAGE FOR OVER 65 YEARS. THIS CREALY SHOWS THAT ALONE, CARLYLE IS NOT CAPABLE TO PAINT THIS DEMONSTRATION PAINTING WITHOUT PROFESSIONAL HIGHLY SKILLED ASSISTANCE, NOR DID HE HAVE THE TECHNIQUE, SKILL OR EVEN THE RIGHT COLOR PALLET ELVGREN USED.
IT WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT GIL ELVGREN TAUGHT AND ASSISTED, EVEN PAINTING DEMONSTRATION PAINTINGS AND HELPING OTHER ARTISTS FOR ILLUSTRATION AND PINUP ART JOB MARKETS.
ELVGRN'S ORIGINAL "FAN MAIL" (C) OR "GETTING POSTED" PAINTINGS - APPEARED IN MAGAZINE FEATURE, ADS AND CALENDARS IN THE LATE 1940'S & 1950'S
-THIS PAINTING LIKE ELVGREN'S PUBLISHED FAN MAIL WORKS IS 24x30 OIL ON CANVAS IN CUSTOM FRAME
- ORIGINAL VINTAGE OIL PAINTING BELIEVED TO BE ACTUAL DEMONSTRATION PAINTING
- ATTRIBUTED BY EXPERT OPINION DANIEL VANCAS TO BE CREATED BY THE HAND OF GIL ELVGREN with/and ARTIST CARLYLE
- IN FINE VINTAGE STYLE FRAME.
"FAN MAIL" Subject Art and comparison art in photos in order of appearance as follows:
Photo # 2,. Featured Photography Magazine photo of Elvgren with the model signing 1 0f 2 paintings he made. Circa 1946-47. Note: that he signs this painting on the fence rail. (This second painting is lost and still unfound)
Photo # 1 (detail) 3., and 4. All of the vintage subject painting offered. A demonstration (3rd) painting by Elvgren/Carlyle circa 1947-48.
Photo # 5. The Original Elvgren painting used for the B&B calendars, the one lost for over 45 years that I found, owned and resold at the same time I found both Carlyle paintings, The Green Couch and the Elvgren "Fan Mail" recreation demonstration painting. Note: That this painting submitted as sample work to B&B, the signature was on the letter on the ground, lower right.
Photo # 6. Original Carlyle pinup of the same late 40's period, from the same collection that I found and bought more than 22 years ago. The skill level is less, technique, style and color pallet are all different from the subject "Fan Mail" painting offered, though all were painted at the same time period and found as collected together since 1948-1950.
Note: I am also offering this other "Green Couch" painting, and will list it on request.
Top Elvgren experts, Art Amise and Daniel Vancas agreed that this art collection with the many Elvgren originals of the same period including Elvgren's original "Getting Posted" that this demonstration painting was based was one of the last great cache' of Elvgren works to be found intact all dating of the late 1940's.
The buyer's certificate of age authenticity and opinion, using this description will be signed by Daniel Vancas, for 25 years the primer Elvgren art expert, a fully authorized Elvgren restoration artist and fine art publisher.
Daniel Vancas also owns the original Elvgren easel and the Elvgren tm, art signature brand as approved and protected by by the Federal Court Order 2001.
Elvgren painted more than 450 pinup paintings. This painting is very Rare, as about 40% or more Elvgren paintings have been thrown away and never will be found. whole ad and calendar company art warehouse though away happened several times in the late 1950's and 1960. This included many Elvgren paintings. Lost forever in landfills, this one survived, and no one knew!
This great one has been found in 1997 by Daniel Vancas and presented here for the very first time.
Gallery, auction, and private collector resale values have substantiated that this is a great price WELL under its Insurance replacement value.
Great condition for age, and typical of Elvgren and other artist pinup paintings with stable oil crazing. Painting has been only lightly cleaned. A Rare resale from private owner after apx 70 years!
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* NOTE: 3 NEW COMPARABLE AUCTION RESULTS JUST IN !
3 AUCTIONS CLOSED ON MONDAY OCT 4TH, 2021 -
THREE ELVGREN PAINTINGS WERE JUST SOLD FOR:
$87,500.00 - $ 68,750.00 - $ 65,625.00!
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C OF A and LETTER OF OPINION BY DANIEL VANCAS SUPPORTING THE WORK ATTRIBUTED TO ELVGREN
FAN MAIL aka GETTING POSTED circa 1946-47 oil 24x30
(C) from the Vancas/Elvgren art archive, 1994, 1997 all rights res.
ELVGREN PAINTS A DEMONSTRATION WITH CARLYLE - ORIGINAL PAINTINGS FOUND!
ELVGREN Liked this image and painted it several times. Note where he signed the painting in this photograph (on the fence rail) and where he signed the one most commonly published (on the letter on the ground) and the very one I also owned and sold. Clearly, this shows that he had painted more than one painting known as "Fan Mail" or Getting Posted".
With this painting, I believe he recreates his 1940s, “Getting Posted” aka “FAN MAIL” A Farmer's daughter who has too many suitors! This Pinup as featured in the Photography Magazine. Circa 1946-47. These are two Pinup paintings both originals painted 1946-47 24x30 oil on canvas. Then he paints in collaboration an instructional demonstration piece with a contemporary artist at the same time and group, with fellow calendar artist named Carlyle.
To put this visual evidence together, here are the photos by order of collection shown. All paintings are oil on canvas and 24x30, and vintage made late 1940's. All were sold to one collector as a group from the B&B calendar company rep about 1950, which was a common practice to get rid of paintings after use if unsold that would routinely be throw them away. It is Estimated about 40% of all of the Elvgren paintings were thrown away.
"FAN MAIL" Subject Art and comparison art in photos in order of appearance as follows:
Photo # 2,. Featured Photography Magazine photo of Elvgren with the model signing 1 0f 2 paintings he made. Circa 1946-47. Note: that he signs this painting on the fence rail. (This painting I still unfound)
Photo # 1 (detail) 3., and 4. All of the vintage subject painting offered. A demonstration (3rd) painting by Elvgren/Carlyle circa 1947-48.
Photo # 5. The rare Original Elvgren painting used for the B&B calendars that I found, owned and resold at the same time.
Note: That this painting submitted to B&B, the signature was on the letter on the ground, lower right.
Photo # 6. Original Carlyle pinup of the same late 40's period, from the same collection that I found and bought 20 years ago. The skill level is less, technique, style and color pallet are all different from the subject painting though all were painted at the same time period and found as collected together since 1949/1950.
Note: I am also offering this painting for sale.
As shown is the original Elvgren in comparison to the original instructional demonstration piece. I believe ELVGREN was helping an artist name Carlyle, most likely done while he was working at the ad firm Gross or while giving instructions at the Chicago Art Institute school. Carlyle also submits art to Calendar company B&B with Elvgren collection of same time period. (See painting # 6) Carlyle confirms that Elvgren assisted him in his own signature with notation, "With apologies to Elvgren", Carlyle", signs on the same letter location. I conclude that Carlyle was apologizing as he was NOT the main artist for the work, nor was he capable of making such a fine work without the demonstration and assistance painting of Elvgren guiding him. Historically, Elvgren did make multiple copies of paintings and teaching, guiding and even completing other artist work. This has been already established in the historical record, personal accounts and books. This I also confirmed with my longtime friend and client, Art Amise, who was both the first true collector and personal friend of Gil Elvgren. Art Amise as well as another early collector who personally showed me what was commissioned from Elvgren of repainting work that he did for the calendar Companies. Sometimes they were not signed, or sometimes these artists could use a alias name. This was common practice with illustrators who may not want to conflict with their exclusive contracts with advertisers and calendar companies.
ADDITION UPDATED REVIEW: In the 1990s I found a cache of Vintage ELVGREN paintings, including many Elvgren's and two Caryles all were confirmed to be sold through a B&B salesman from the late 1940s and early '50s to one family owned business! Elvgren with this Carlyle. The original Elvgren “Fan Mail” and a unique Carlyle painting (Pinup Girl on Green Couch, also shown for comparison) At that time I also found the same "Getting Posted" image as a Carlyle/Elvgren demonstration Pinup also the same size, 24x30, oil on canvas. Clearly, the B&B selling this art to my client placed and confirmed the connection of the artists and the grouping of Confirmed Elvgren original paintings and Carlyle paintings all from the late 1940s. This placed Carlyle's art with and in connection to B&B and Gil Elvgren at the time. This painting I believe was an instruction exercise and instructional demonstration with Carlyle with or by Elvgren at that time for the artists improvement from the recent painting submitted to and sold off by B&B called the "Pinup On Green Couch" by Carlyle. Even the most casual viewer with little experience can see that there is a striking difference in skill and ability of these two Carlyle paintings, and could not be painted by the same artist, unless with a lot of professional help. However, when comparing side by side the vintage original paintings by Elvgren of "Fan Mail" and the vintage "Fan Mail" of Carlye, all viewer concluded in my gallery that it was one and the same artist without looking at the signature. Clearly, even seasoned collectors of Elvgren and pinup agreed that Elvgren must have at the very least assisted in the painting and demonstrated with the artist Carlyle at the time, as all the art was the same vintage and connected to or from direct B&B source sold to my clients over 65-70 years ago.
This grouping of original Elvgren paintings was bought by one person directly from the Ad Company shortly after, circa 1949/50. Decades later, I acquired them all, still as a group from the very same family. The group included Elvgren and Carlyle paintings. As you can see this demonstration painting is exceptionally good and could only be ELVGREN demonstration work, helping Carlyle, as Elvgren was known to help younger artists while demonstrating his painting techniques even directly on their canvases as well.
Since I owned both of these paintings and have the 25 years experience and expertise working with, restoring, publishing, and replicated 240 Elvgren Pinup paintings, I can certify that the upper half of this Pinup body, all of her face and hair could only be painted exclusively by Elvgren, and with the Elvgren color palette, not the Carlyle color palette. This opinion is further supported by comparison to a unique original painting that was painted by Carlyle alone (without the master artist Elvgren's assistance ) that was from the same period and originally bought with the collection of Elvgren originals including the very same “Getting Posted”, “Perfection”, “Elegance” and several other original Elvgren paintings of the 1946-48 period; one can visually conclude that Carlyle could not paint the "Getting Posted" demonstration painting without the assistance of Elvgren. The collection of the art found together continues to cement this obvious connection between the two paintings and the two artists at the same time and period.
A short time after I found this collection, I privately sold both The 1940's original Elvgren published original and this 1940's demonstration painting of “Getting Posted” aka "Fan Mail", paintings. This was about 20 years ago. After my client, unfortunately, passed away, I acquired this demonstration painting from his wife to offer again. I have enjoyed it for a couple of years now and this is my first offering of this painting in 20 years.
With its purchase, I will sign this review and expert opinion that this painting offered is an Elvgren demonstration or instructional collaboration painting between Elvgren and Carlyle, circa 1947-48.
Yours truly, Daniel Vancas
FAN MAIL (C) A DANIEL VANCAS COPYRIGHT
BOTH ORIGINAL VINTAGE ELVGREN PAINTING, FINE ART PRINTS, AND RECREATION OR DEMONSTRATION PAINTINGS ARE ALL FROM THE ART ARCHIVES OF DANIEL VANCAS/VANGUARD/ELVGREN AND THE EXCLUSIVE COPYRIGHTS OF DANIEL VANCAS (C) 1995, 1997 THR 2019 ALL RIGHTS RES.
DANIEL VANCAS IS THE ELVGREN tm ART BRAND OWNER, REGISTERED WITH EBAY SINCE 2001
NOTICE: Elvgren tm is the art Brand owned by Daniel Vancas and Elvgren authority since 1994. The Elvgren tm brand ownership rights approved and so Ordered by the Federal Court Permanent Order 2001 then registered at eBay Vero in May 2001. Since 1994, Daniel Vancas is both the fine art publisher the only fully authorized Elvgren replica artist who has painted more than 240 replica paintings and performed restorations on Elvgren work. A world authority of Elvgren original art. With my exclusive knowledge and expertise or more than 25 years, plus my exclusive rights, authorities, and experience I am uniquely qualified to state that my separate work is naturally inspired by and/or in the style of Elvgren tm.
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Art and images (c) Daniel Vancas from the ELVGREN/Vancas art archives 1994-2018 all rights res.
ELVGREN Tm is the exclusive art brand of DANIEL Vancas 1994 all rights res.
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Elvgren tm, is an art signature and art brand owned by Daniel Vancas, 1994 - 2015, backed by a Permanent Federal Court Order, 2001, all rights res.
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