philips saeco minuto, this was purchased from ebay but was recertified by Seattle Coffee Gear and also fixed by then after the flow meter went. I think it is the same thing again as it just keeps spitting out water through wand like it did before the lcd screen is also gone this happened after i got back from SCG when they repaired unfortunately i didn’t open the box for 6 months as i had a working Seaco Giro Plus that was working, well it died i opened the box and discovered the screen and was dead, of course 6 months since repaired they won’t cover anything, upset but a lessened learned always check repaired items eve. i’d going to store them!!!!Well i’ve had enough of this unit i need to move on. if your handy or N expert get this beauty for cheap! Shipping will be more then the item.