I have this Vintage violin by Mathias Thoma ,serial 8198,1972 West Germany,it has case no bow.There are scratches on top and bottom to finish,edges are bumped and initials are on nech back.The violin measures 7-1/8"wide 12-1/2"on body and 20-5/8'overall, a 1/2 size I believe. Please visit my ebay store for more instruments.