Both are in very good condition with minor wear from occasional use.  They are from the same person and the same size 8.5 N.  These are a narrow fit and measure inside the shoe at the ball of the foot 3" wide, and on the bottom of the shoe they measure toe to heel 10 1/2".  They are blue suede, and a brown microfiber.  Please look closely at my photos for details.  Item 1-29-23-C 1