bought these  shoes  i thought i  wear an 11 wide , but they run big and it was too big for me , since i worn them for 1 hour outside  they are not considered new , but to you and me they are . it comes with no box .!!!!!!!! box  is shown in pictures  only and plastic shoe horn and blue inserts . i aam not sending the box  so i can save postage  fees for my self . but they will be shipped in a  shipping box to protect them . slow mail but not the shoe box ......if this ok . then you get a great deal .